and they paid you know how much they paid us taxes zero there are over forty billion dollars profit nothing they get all these offshore to visions where they hide their profits all these companies are doing this i mean this is nuts that we should be depending on where you can punish the oil companies for providing our our our fuel our for providing not impoverish in the month i want to actually look. like well i'm not saying that we shouldn't be looking at other options and i think that solar or wind power and those things are necessarily bad and we should be exploring them but i'm disabled right now. asking taxpayers to fly hands. in green energy projects this is just it's not right especially with regard that the way it is i i just i mean i don't we'll have to agree to disagree amanda thanks for coming by to. speak and i said if you're angry about more drilling in the gulf then what republicans did in the house yesterday should really get under your skin the entire party voted to keep tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies in the hands

of the largest oil companies in the nation and so the most profitable company companies in the history of the world these are the same companies that have made nearly five hundred billion dollars in profits not revenue profits over the last five years and paid virtually no u.s. income taxes after all why in corporate welfare we get when you can just cut billions from the middle class there's a larger issue here salt used to be something the country's went to war for if you look back over the history of the human racial see you know the roman empire went to war for salt alexander the great went to work went to war for so empires literally went to war for so the british empire saw it was so important that it was against the law. for the indian people who. say they have oceans on two sides or all around i guess arguably subcabinet they would make salt or they would let the salt you know that when the tide comes in and they build these big wooden things in the and it kind of catch the water and dry it and they gather that salt

it was against the law for them to use that salt themselves they had to send it to england and that this is the salt protests and the of the weaving prohibited protests which is a bit of a digression or what gandhi was all about he was like no i'm going to go out make my own salt even though it's against the law so why was sot so important so was so important because it was strategic because an army couldn't march without salt why because they used it to dry their beats they used to keep dry their food they used it as a preserve it now today's strategic you can't move without its commodities oil and in the united states right now more than seventy percent of all the people who drive their cars every day drive fewer than fifty miles in the course of a day. fewer than fifty miles now that's about the range that an electric car can go and refill from just

a regular wall socket overnight if we were to do this or that you could refill from a solar panel or a valerie if we were to drop seventy percent of our oil usage and was turned that into electric we wouldn't have to import any oil from saudi arabia we've already got it. so a problem solving you don't have to do any more drilling be the military is the biggest user of our oil right though the largest user of oil in the us it is our u.s. military and if we were to say you know we're going to end the war in iraq we're going to end the war in afghanistan we're going to bring people home i mean we're spending over a thousand dollars a gallon to get gasoline into afghanistan to our soldiers why because the cost of transporting it there which is being done with diesel fuel and gasoline jet fuel i mean at what point do we say this is not it's we're going to strip the strategic value of oil the same with the danes are doing it building

a fleet of electric cars are going to strip the strategic value out of it by simply making it no longer the thing that ninety eight percent of our transportation is running on but instead make it only ten twenty thirty percent of our transportation and we can we can and to let ourselves. there. is time for a daily pull your chance to tell us what you think publicans have a new tactic to try to win back the white house in two thousand and twelve and that's to kick president obama off the ballot in several states eleven states in our nation are now considering legislation that would require president obama to prove that he was born in the united states or to have his name placed on the state's presidential ballot or as president obama has already proven he was born in hawaii and that state has repeatedly confirmed by releasing his birth certificate but still the birth is aren't satisfied georgia is the latest state to introduce

similar legislation as republican state lawmaker mark at feel put it it is in a sense a response to the sitting president and his inability or unwillingness to release his original verse there are good. all right even a zero publicans like mike huckabee seem to be jumping on board the birth there bandwagon check out this interview from earlier in the week don't you think we deserve to know more about this man i would love to know more but i know it's troubling enough and one thing that i do know is his having grown up in kenya his view of the brits for example very different than the average american when he gave the bust back to when the bridge going to show a great insult to the british but then if you think about it his perspective as growing up and you with a kenyan father and grandfather very few of them out revolution in kenya is very different than ours because i think probably grew up during the great is where a bunch of imperialists to persecute all grand god of course president obama did

not grow up in kenya so we live in states now and this guy wants to run for president some credible eleven states now considering bills to require president obama to release his original birth certificate in order to run in two thousand and twelve here's today's question do you even have yours here are the possible answers yes i still have the original funny footprints at all or no i lost the original somehow years ago and got a copy from the state all around the town herman dot com to let us know what you think so far we're seeing about sixty percent of people saying they can't find it i can't find mine i'll get to duplicate any of the poll be open until tomorrow. still ahead here in the big picture here in the u.s. we have something called separation of church and state but can the state ever talk religion when it comes to being foster parents it has in the u.k. that story.

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is a story coming out of the united kingdom about a couple that was denied the right to be foster parents because of their anti almost sexual religious beliefs the couple had previously been foster parents and children back in the ninety's but in a two thousand and seven interview with the social worker the couple eunice and owen johns expressed strong views on homosexuality give a social worker reservations about putting a child in their home a judge upheld that decision and ruled that the u.k. law preventing discrimination against gays trumps the couple's religious beliefs and the britain is a secular state not a theocracy those were the judges words so is this the right choice should religious beliefs play a factor in foster care homes i propose cameron chairman of the family research

institute joins me now to talk about this issue dr cameron welcome back to the program. i think you shouldn't there be a separation of church and state when it comes to raising foster kids. i don't think particularly if a religion is dangerous if for instance you know the of the parents will be o.t. as part of their religious activities perhaps not on the other hand here in great britain and also as you know in the state of illinois same question as the rains could it be that because homosexuals are protected especially kabul so does the legal that even parents who don't have high we accept the attitudes toward homosexuality octon probably did not last are. absolutely not if you look at were christians do historically and today you will find that christians on

the whole are more law abiding they are more apt to vote each other on saw yeah i know some gay christian side but i guess the harsher here is do we really want to begin to raising foster kids where you say bigot. consider someone who's a homosexual and in the aggregate homosexuals are more up to disturb society break the locks are there more after the war costly than they are as with realities doesn't that depend on what the society is or if it's making laws against homosexuality i mean these statistics are are very bizarre this don't states have the right to establish laws and standards for foster parents that would exclude nazis white supremacists and all of fobs. how they can and the argument is now shut with in great britain here you have approached by

a parliament certainly not people who have all the people elected to parliament in a. well harlem or not it's not the mockers the same sense that the states are. and the real issue is there i don't think there are any direct democracies anywhere in the world are there sourpuss engage in criminology there more after he broke away so you're saying that the u.k. the other is that there are other states that are more democratic than the united kingdom i don't know if you know it to the best of my knowledge the last time there was a pure democracy that is where all the people participate was it was athens greece it took six thousand and one people to show up the policy that was what that was called to show up to make any decision and if they didn't get that six thousand one people which was you know more than fifty percent of the population of citizens of athens that no vote could take place and in fact the people who didn't show up were called in a year. which is where the word india came from are you suggesting that there are

other countries where that kind of direct democracy is being is be is being used and that because the united kingdom has a representative democracy like we do here in the united states that but they don't have the right to say that having bigots care for children who are literally wards of the state we're dumb of course your kids are taught about adoption which are not children who have been placed in the care of the state and the biggest take care of them is an ok thing. your column people who god approve of homosexuality make it so i would say to say they are being hash only empirically sensitive to reality and we do have some data yours and you can go online there's a new study out it's all my audience program and its the owner children but it also picked up early on kids being raised by preston it's an interesting read as with almost the all the other day you see a rise in kids who are

a tad more apt to have a scrape are a lot had more apt to have mental health care to serve with all due respect and studies i've seen show that there's absolutely no difference in the kids who grow raised in gay households vs but we're not talking about that we're not talking about health that i mean you know i can talk back to you the fact they gave an interview did to percent less likely to be obese than straight men in the united states that's not the issue the issue is about should kids who are wards of the state be in the bigots probably not much more apt to have sexually transmitted diseases such as age ip and furthermore for the kids and that's where fostering was a buck not through a slot machines they did not what's good for the kiddies and the kids you better when they are with a man or woman to do the hood to kids do better when they're in a household that's filled with hate and fear roberts media hate and fear well the people who hate and fear gay you're right you're an astute observer these people

are going to the interview i am talking about these people i'm talking about foster parents who hate these people. oh it could be but for most people most of the time this is our big talk. and if you're talking about the state. discriminating against christians who had a lot to do with bill and making out great for what it is in favor of people who are. already. the only thing we have who is being pure. that they can we're talking about people who hate gays and watched your parents not about whether or not you know about but whatever it may be i think we both started talking and we thank you so i thank you so much for joining us tonight. as soon as you probably noticed bigotry is alive and well in america and apparently the u.k.

particularly among insecure white men. as moammar gadhafi mo's down his own citizens with fighter jets and helicopters in libya today american corporations are busy securing their profits in the region there used to be a moral standard business but in today's globalized world moral considerations have been thrown out the window and profits are apparently the only thing that matters libya has always been regarded as a rogue nation and we know for certain it could aki played a role in the terrorist bombing of pan am flight one of three that killed one hundred ninety american citizens. and yet u.s. based corporations are openly doing business with get coffee and libya and have

been since george w. bush made it legal in fact if you go online you can find a guidebook for u.s. companies written by the state department the department commerce and settled and doing business in libya commercial guide for u.s. companies as well be called here's how to get rich doing business with a brutal dictator one person instrumental in normalizing business relationships with libya back in two thousand and eight was david welch a u.s. diplomat under george w. bush after succeeding in opening doors to libya's markets welsh went on to become the vice president of back to tell a corporation that is currently building a new car plant in guess where libya talk about a revolving door even in a nation like iran american corporations find a way a tech company honeywell has received twelve billion dollars in federal contracts but has been routinely doing business in iran of creating petroleum factories and selling security cordon to the regime through a british subsidiary and they're not alone hundreds of corporations do the same

thing with other pariah regimes all over the world for example before i became vice president dick cheney was c.e.o. of halliburton which by the way was almost bankrupt when he became vice president and all these contracts with iraq or when i kind of brought it back but halliburton of the time when cheney was running it was then doing business with both iran and iraq while both were supposedly under both u.s. and u.n. sanctions aren't these guys traitors but that's the obvious stuff more subtle are dictatorships like china and vietnam that routinely imprison and kill their political dissidents but welcome american companies and american executives seems so enthusiastic to go there for example that same honeywell that found a way to do business with libya has also moved their factories to china like hundreds of other american companies. you know the only real difference between china and libya is that china's human rights abuses aren't overt and clumsy and

chinese in their companies even hire american p.r. firms and former members of congress to burnish their images there are probably hundreds of such american shills right here in this town in washington d.c. alone that's why american companies didn't pull out of china will lose you won the nobel prize last year and was unable to attend the ceremony because he's a political prisoner or when fox comes or the company that makes i phones among other things installed naveen all around it's building are on the second floor of its buildings so people could no longer just jump off the rooftops to commit suicide to get caught by the net and they wouldn't die seventeen ever committed suicide. that was last year earlier this year commie chinese communist party chairman who now was given a rock star welcome by the white house while back home in china he was torturing dissidents and basically enslaving workers on behalf of american millionaires and

billionaires it's time to send today's to cheney's of the world the ones using off short of visions to do business with the most brutal dictators to jail and and to at the very least shame the ones like apple steve jobs who are making fortunes in the sweat shops of china. and the insane free trade laws that make this all possible and go back to the protectionist policies that's right everybody thinks it's a terrible word what's bad about protecting american workers that built this country from the time of george washington and still against ross perot's warnings we join nafta signed jack and created to join the world trade organization and signed a pull out of all of them. today and that's the big picture for tonight for more information visit our website. check out our you tube page you tube dot com slash the big picture of archie and also our change dot com and don't forget the marker

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realm of economics we're going to find out from our financial correspondent and the f.b.i. has a lawsuit on its hands after charging a g.p.s. tracker to muslim american students are details on what the f.b.i. did from the man who's filed the lawsuit and then it's the latest example of washington's unusually close ties with special interest groups chris dodd has now been named the new chairman of m.p.a. supposedly the most prestigious job on k. street so what are the perks of selling out to lobbyists or to cover all that and more it's a night show but first let's move on to our top story. continuing our coverage in libya there are more reports of major violence a libyan air force has bombed their oil refinery and the battle between rebel and profit off the forces is escalating meanwhile the u.s. is flexing its military muscles and could find a partner in the u.k. but as artie's lorena reports they might be the only ones who are on board. we do

not in any way the use of military assets we must not tolerate this regime using military force against its own people is this history repeating itself the british government getting the guns on standby and the country crumbles vowing to impose a no fly zone in this case libya in two thousand and three it was iraq it's looking very dangerous it's looking quite possible that they will launch such an attack with or without u.n. approval and so we're looking at almost a repeat of what happened in iraq and in the results so suspect will be largely the same but not every country is getting that treatment and libya is not the only african nation in turmoil somalia is drawn out conflict has been called a slow genocide but there's little sign of us or european military inputs and it's a similar story on the other side of the continent there are events unfolding right now in ivory coast where there is also

a conflict an armed conflict between rebels and the government and nobody seems to be thinking of that it's only because fashionable attention is focused on libya oil but also from the political implications of the middle east as a whole as we all know the west including my own country has got its hands very dirty with the libyan leadership over recent years dirty with black gold libya has the largest proven oil reserves in africa but more than three percent of the global toso and there could be a lot more undiscovered the only reason you're interested in. your oil here anybody screaming. yelling about all those people last week they were killed in new york. i guess cocoa was not that much of a national priority but in somalia there was precious little help while the body count over the years except for one brief disastrous intervention involving u.s. soldiers immortalized in the movie black hawk down american forces failed at great

cost to stabilize the country they left quickly and haven't returned and the lessons were learned when it came to iraq which remains of the staple even now with only feeble she said that much vaunted democracy allied troops are equally bogged down in afghanistan with new convincing timeline for withdrawal and an ever rising death toll. the mess that's been made in afghanistan the terrible disaster that was caused in iraq really shouldn't or any more countries in the middle east it's a model today's troubles african nations won't want to impose their government which is still ruling. american occupation of iraq really. help. the middle east. and american and european government shouldn't look for backing at home to a million marched in london even the invasion of iraq in two thousand and three and

times have changed this is now austerity britain are starting another war factored into the budget british troops are already fighting an unpopular war in afghanistan it's highly unlikely the conflict has the appetite for again getting involved in someone else's struggle battling as they are at home in the face of deep cuts rising unemployment and it's unlikely to be popular in sight this building the ministry of defense has to slash spending by more than seven and a half billion dollars in the next four years it's an intervention britain would find hard to afford on many levels your and it's our duty. so a rebel leaders in eastern libya call for international military intervention to help them topple gadhafi they say they don't want ground forces they don't want another iraq or afghanistan just airstrikes weapons maybe a little help in the form of a no fly zone but it thing is it's not that easy something that the u.s.

media seems to be completely missing as they paint the picture of international intervention as a necessity repeat the words of u.s. and british officials who call it a moral imperative but is another military conflict really in the world and specifically in america's best interest and why does this civil war call for our attention while we stood by and watch conflicts in africa go on for years here to discuss it with me is michael even a fellow at the truman national security project michael thanks so much for being here now let's first talk about what a no fly zone it would actually mean right there's a lot of talk about it rumors swirling around now we have you know the libyans are calling for one but as general mattis said today you know this isn't just telling planes not to fly this would be a military operation and it's a serious military operation it wouldn't heal probably stationing two aircraft carriers of the coast of libya two aircraft carriers are now on their way to the mediterranean and using planes for military bases in italy and it would require

destroying targets on the ground radar stations air defense batteries and continuous overflight that might also entailed challenging libyan planes that tried to defy the no fly zone and of possibly shooting them down it could also entailed military u.s. military aircraft being shot down and u.s. soldiers being put at risk so it's a serious undertaking and that's why it was an obama administration is really considering its options and taking its time so this is this will be putting lives at risk like you said this is a military operation often what we keep hearing right now too is that we don't want this to become iraq or afghanistan or repeat of either one but do we have any. any confidence that. we were to intervene that it works so it was always a risk of mission creep that once you begin a military operation that new circumstances arise that then call for a little bit more a little bit more than we've been seeing that a lot with many of our other conflicts like iraq and afghanistan seems like that's a bit of a habit of ours well.